[实务/流程] 中国专利申请文件的两大软肋

2007-4-2 16:34
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鄙视果汁的马甲  注册会员 | 2007-4-3 20:27:42

Re:中国专利申请文件的两大软肋

pls wrote:
马甲同志,作为一个2006年靠加宽通过考试的人,我很负责任的告诉你,这种以引用的方式引入对比文件,在国外也是不允许的,至少欧专局对此有明确的规定。您在生气之余,也可以考虑多学习学习外面的知识,不要人云亦云!
什么叫“在国外也是不允许的”,难道别人写了就要驳回吗?请把欧专局对此的规定复述一下,再请问是不是所有欧美日这些国家都不允许这种将对比文件作为说明发明内容的做法,如果不是,请不要用不允许这三个字。
再多说一句鄙视的是国知的马甲,不是鄙视国知局里的所有人,比如贺局长就只对06卷三试题做了肯定,对答案的给出只说是经过讨论得出的!!!-我们完全理解他不对答案表态的做法。
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袋里人  中级会员 | 2007-4-3 20:36:00

Re:中国专利申请文件的两大软肋

鄙视果汁的马甲 wrote:
再多说一句鄙视的是国知的马甲,不是鄙视国知局里的所有人,比如贺局长就只对06卷三试题做了肯定,对答案的给出只说是经过讨论得出的!!!-我们完全理解他不对答案表态的做法。

都考神经了。
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pls  注册会员 | 2007-4-3 22:10:02

Re:中国专利申请文件的两大软肋

鄙视果汁的马甲 wrote:
什么叫“在国外也是不允许的”,难道别人写了就要驳回吗?请把欧专局对此的规定复述一下,再请问是不是所有欧美日这些国家都不允许这种将对比文件作为说明发明内容的做法,如果不是,请不要用不允许这三个字。
再多说一句鄙视的是国知的马甲,不是鄙视国知局里的所有人,比如贺局长就只对06卷三试题做了肯定,对答案的给出只说是经过讨论得出的!!!-我们完全理解他不对答案表态的做法。

看来你是忙着复习,没时间学习这种乱七八糟的东西了。博派上就有欧专局指南的链接,自己可以下载来看啊。那我就把规定贴给你看咯
“Where the reference document relates directly to the disclosure of the invention (e.g. details of one of the components of a claimed apparatus) then the examiner should first consider whether knowing what is in the reference document is in fact essential for carrying out the invention as meant by Art. 83:

If not essential the usual expression \'which is hereby incorporated by reference\'~ or any expression of the same kind should be deleted from the description.

If matter in the document referred to is essential to satisfy the requirements of Art. 83 the examiner should require the deletion of the above-mentioned expression and that instead the matter is expressly incorporated into the description because the patent specification should regarding the essential features of the invention be self-contained i.e. capable of being understood without reference to any other document. One should also bear in mind that reference documents are not part of the text to be translated pursuant to Art. 65.”
wittyfool  注册会员 | 2007-4-4 04:07:54

Incorporation by reference

EPO是不承认incorporation by reference,但至少在美国是可以的。
USPTO审查指南:
2163.07(b) Incorporation by Reference [R-3] - 2100 Patentability

2163.07(b) Incorporation by Reference [R-3]
Instead of repeating some information contained in another document, an application may attempt to incorporate the content of another document or part thereof by reference to the document in the text of the specification. The information incorporated is as much a part of the application as filed as if the text was repeated in the application, and should be treated as part of the text of the application as filed. Replacing the identified material incorporated by reference with the actual text is not new matter. .....
作在USPTO提交的PCT的案子,满眼都是incorporate by reference,在EPO提交的基本上就看不到。
zls0  认证会员 | 2007-4-4 06:27:13

Re:中国专利申请文件的两大软肋

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