虽然论坛对...is selected from the group consisting of A,B,C and D.句式已经有讨论。但我继续不明白。
这个句式在美国审查指南里有规定,但是在我们的审查指南里没有这个group对应的群组这个概念。最不明白的是,这个群组是指:需且仅包括A,B,C,D同时在内的群组,还是A,B,C,D任意选择其中一个或多个所有可能的群组,比如: A,B;C,D;A,B,D;...。?
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sln  新手上路 | 2008-4-9 17:03:58

Re:我继续不明白

因为在美国审查指南里有说明:
I.    MARKUSH GROUPS

Alternative expressions are permitted if they present no uncertainty or ambiguity with respect to the question of scope or clarity of the claims. One acceptable form of alternative expression, which is commonly referred to as a Markush group, recites members as being \"selected from the group consisting of A, B and C.\" See Ex parte Markush, 1925 C.D. 126 (Comm\'r Pat. 1925).

Ex parte Markush sanctions claiming a genus expressed as a group consisting of certain specified materials. Inventions in metallurgy, refractories, ceramics, pharmacy, pharmacology and biology are most frequently claimed under the Markush formula but purely mechanical features or process steps may also be claimed by using the Markush style of claiming. See Ex parte Head, 214 USPQ 551 (Bd. App. 1981); In re Gaubert, 524 F.2d 1222, 187 USPQ 664 (CCPA 1975); and In re Harnisch, 631 F.2d 716, 206 USPQ 300 (CCPA 1980). It is improper to use the term \"comprising\" instead of \"consisting of.\" Ex parte Dotter, 12 USPQ 382 (Bd. App. 1931).

The use of Markush claims of diminishing scope should not, in itself, be considered a sufficient basis for objection to or rejection of claims. However, if such a practice renders the claims indefinite or if it results in undue multiplicity, an appropriate rejection should be made.

Similarly, the double inclusion of an element by members of a Markush group is not, in itself, sufficient basis for objection to or rejection of claims. Rather, the facts in each case must be evaluated to determine whether or not the multiple inclusion of one or more elements in a claim renders that claim indefinite. The mere fact that a compound may be embraced by more than one member of a Markush group recited in the claim does not necessarily render the scope of the claim unclear. For example, the Markush group, \"selected from the group consisting of amino, halogen, nitro, chloro and alkyl\" should be acceptable even though \"halogen\" is generic to \"chloro.\"

The materials set forth in the Markush group ordinarily must belong to a recognized physical or chemical class or to an art-recognized class. However, when the Markush group occurs in a claim reciting a process or a combination (not a single compound), it is sufficient if the members of the group are disclosed in the specification to possess at least one property in common which is mainly responsible for their function in the claimed relationship, and it is clear from their very nature or from the prior art that all of them possess this property. While in the past the test for Markush-type claims was applied as liberally as possible, present practice which holds that claims reciting Markush groups are not generic claims ( MPEP § 803) may subject the groups to a more stringent test for propriety of the recited members. Where a Markush expression is applied only to a portion of a chemical compound, the propriety of the grouping is determined by a consideration of the compound as a whole, and does not depend on there being a community of properties in the members of the Markush expression.

When materials recited in a claim are so related as to constitute a proper Markush group, they may be recited in the conventional manner, or alternatively. For example, if \"wherein R is a material selected from the group consisting of A, B, C and D\" is a proper limitation, then \"wherein R is A, B, C or D\" shall also be considered proper.

虽然有这个说明:It is improper to use the term \"comprising\" instead of \"consisting of.\" Ex parte Dotter, 12 USPQ 382 (Bd. App. 1931).
但是我还是不明白,具体是什么样子,谁能举个例子?
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sln  新手上路 | 2008-4-9 17:27:35

Re:我继续不明白,好像有点明白了

好像我有点明白了:
Think of Markush groups as combinatoric building blocks (they are normally seen in chemical compounds). The group covers many possible permutations of the claimed building blocks that are considered functionally equivalent.
Proper Form: selected from the group consisting of A, B and C.
其实就是从A,B,C中任意选择其中的一个或几个。
sln  新手上路 | 2008-4-9 17:55:42

搞定了这个奇怪的表达

这里找到解释了:
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/ido/oeip/sgml/st32/redbook/pap-v15-2001-01-31/elements/markush-item.html
zulu  专利代理人 | 2008-4-9 20:27:56

Re:我继续不明白,好像有点明白了

sln wrote:
好像我有点明白了:
Think of Markush groups as combinatoric building blocks (they are normally seen in chemical compounds). The group covers many possible permutations of the claimed building blocks that are considered functionally equivalent.
Proper Form: selected from the group consisting of A, B and C.
其实就是从A,B,C中任意选择其中的一个或几个。
应该仅是选择一个。如果是选择多个的话,一般这样表达:is selected from the group consisting of A, B, C, and any combination thereof.
sln  新手上路 | 2008-4-10 04:38:37

Re:我继续不明白:搞定了

谢谢楼上,确实如此,正解。
Abbot Laboratories v. Baxter pharmaceuticals的U.S. Patent No. 5,990,176案例就是这么解析的,联邦巡回法院最终就是那么解析的:
The court held that Markush groups are listings of specified alternatives from a group in a patent claim, typically expressed in the form; \"A member elected from the group consisting of A, B, and C,\" although they noted that language such as \"wherein the member is A, B, or C\" would also be correct.
其实就是...其选自A、B或C的意思。但我不知道美国人为什把它搞的这么复杂。
怪不的美国专利称其“另类”的表达方法。

具体的官方解析见这里:
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/sol/notices/72fr44992.pdf
里面有详细的说明。

另外,看完Abbot Laboratories v. Baxter pharmaceuticals的U.S. Patent No. 5,990,176案发现:美国专利法里的a/an应该是one or more的意思。
silentland  注册会员 | 2008-4-10 21:06:43

Re:我继续不明白:搞定了

Markush的标准写法是用consist of的,因为从一group中选择,再使用开放的comprise会被认为indefinite,如果是a XX selecte from the group,自然是从中择一。如果要表达one or more的话,可以用at least one XX selecte from the group,此处XX可以为material等通用名。
另外,在使用comprise a XX的时候,也包括了复数个XX。但一般为了强调可以使用at least a XX
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